I ordered 2 packs but only received 1. I attempted germination and planting but nothing germinated so no groth. I contacted Zippem several times. The have ignored the fact that 1 package is missing. Then the want pic or vid of seeds in dirt. Hahaha. No way. The poppy seed sized seeds in wet soil. Never will fin them. I cannot recomend buying snything from Zippem.